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		<title>The Vincent Lecavalier Debate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolly Dolce</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Is Vincent Lecavalier A Hero Or Just As Bad As A Philadelphia Flyer? There is much debate over whether or not Vincent Lecavalier is a &#8216;good captain&#8217; of the Tampa Bay Lightning or not. Haters gonna hate, Lovers gonna love, Vinny&#8217;s gonna strike. When he&#8217;s not injured. Perhaps that&#8217;s not the case anymore as he [...]</p><p><a href="http://boltsbythebay.com/2013/02/07/the-vincent-lecavalier-debate/">The Vincent Lecavalier Debate</a> - <a href="http://boltsbythebay.com">Bolts by the Bay</a> - <a href="http://boltsbythebay.com">Bolts by the Bay - A Tampa Bay Lightning Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_4775" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/7013084.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4775" title="NHL: Tampa Bay Lightning at Philadelphia Flyers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/7013084-300x236.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="236" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">February 5, 2013; Philadelphia, PA, USA; Tampa Bay Lightning center <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lecavvi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Vincent Lecavalier</a></strong> (4) during the third period against the Philadelphia Flyers at the Wells Fargo Center. The Flyers defeated the Lightning, 2-1. Mandatory Credit: Eric Hartline-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>Is Vincent Lecavalier A Hero Or Just As Bad As A Philadelphia Flyer?</p>
<p>There is much debate over whether or not Vincent Lecavalier is a &#8216;good captain&#8217; of the Tampa Bay Lightning or not. Haters gonna hate, Lovers gonna love, Vinny&#8217;s gonna strike. When he&#8217;s not injured. Perhaps that&#8217;s not the case anymore as he didn&#8217;t miss a game with his bone bruise that he got as a result of <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/salosa01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Sami Salo</a></strong>&#8216;s slapshot that hit him in the ankle in the last game of the recent home stand.</p>
<p>I was just reading a Facebook post earlier discussing Vinny, and his character of leadership. It was brought up by the fact that he <a href="http://www.hockeyfights.com/quickhits/entry/rinaldo-tags-crombeen-lecavalier-seeks-retribution-on-talbot" target="_blank">hit Maxime Talbot after he was down</a> at Tuesday&#8217;s Philadelphia Flyers game. A few people were going back and forth, and the just of it was talking about how they do support Vinny as captain, however, when he was injured it didn&#8217;t appear that he was even coming to the arena to support his team. He was there, but wasn&#8217;t in front of the cameras. The main point of the conversation that I wanted to pick up was one person was saying that the &#8216;C&#8217; meant leadership amongst the team and not the media. The other felt that, as captain, he should be the &#8216;face of the franchise&#8217;, leading by speaking for the team in front of the media as well as his on ice and locker room duties.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my take. The role of captain on a team is a position of leadership. That means that the moment that you put on the &#8216;C&#8217;, you become a role model for the team, the junior teams in your organization, the children who play hockey in your city and look up to you. This isn&#8217;t a title to be taken lightly. I&#8217;m not saying that Vinny&#8217;s not a good leader. I have seen leadership from Vinny this year. He&#8217;s played better than he has in a long time. He&#8217;s been carrying himself on the ice like a captain. However, I must put in to question his behavior on Tuesday night.</p>
<p>Everyone knows my opinion of the Philadelphia Flyers, and how I tend to think that most of the team are classless thugs who like to bully the rest of the league. Most of their fans, not all, but most that I&#8217;ve dealt with personally, are the same. Don&#8217;t even get me started on the &#8220;<a title="Flyers refuse to play" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuugKeLnaI" target="_blank">Day Hockey Stood Still</a>&#8220;. If this offends you then I apologize, however, I have the right to my opinion. Even the sports media is calling them the Broad Street Bullies again,  a name that the team was called in the 1972-73 season due to their nasty on ice dispositions. Maybe it&#8217;s the city. Perhaps the color orange drives them crazy. Maybe they didn&#8217;t get their Distemper shots. Who knows why they act the way they do, and why they feel that they have to be mean. Maybe they puff up to not look like the <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/c/crosbsi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Sidney Crosby</a></strong>&#8216;s of the league, as they took some slack for complaining and some of the actions that head coach <strong></strong><strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/laviope01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Peter Laviolette</a></strong> has had them take. (Or lack of, in the case of holding the puck to dodge the 1-3-1. Then <strong><em>they</em> </strong>used it on the Lightning on Tuesday. Again, another day&#8217;s writings&#8217; waiting to happen.)</p>
<p>On Tuesday night the Lightning played in Philadelphia. We knew before the game happened that there would be fights. It&#8217;s against Philly. Not only are they rivals, but tempers are always flaring when the two teams meet. I thought for sure that there would be a big brawl when I saw the fact that <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/labripi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Pierre-Cedric Labrie</a></strong> aka Nacho aka PC = PeliCan finally got the chance to play, but he stayed out of the boxing ring and behaved himself all night. Early on in the game <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/c/crombbj01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">B.J. Crombeen</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/rinalza01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Zac Rinaldo</a></strong> had a scrap. In seconds Rinaldo had Crombeen down, crushing him like a tin can. It&#8217;s clear that Rinaldo punched Crombeen after he was down, though Rinaldo is disputing the fact. (Like a Flyer to do something and not own up to it.) First of all, let me say that I&#8217;m not too sure of Crombeen&#8217;s role on this team. He was brought in to fill a hole in play. Some think that he&#8217;s trying to fill the Downie hole with the fighting. However if you look at his extensive <a href="http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2278" target="_blank">fight card, </a>he has always had a problem with his temper. It&#8217;s getting ridiculous if you ask me. Even still, the unwritten code is that you don&#8217;t hit a man after he&#8217;s down.</p>
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<p>The teams exchanged words, and Pierre McGuire said that Marty St. Louis was saying that they don&#8217;t have a problem with the fighting, however, it&#8217;s the fact that he hit him after he was down. Towards the end of the game, nerves were up. Crombeen still wasn&#8217;t on the bench. He had been medically cleared, however, they kept him out of the rest of the game as a precaution. The Lightning were down and in desperate need of scoring to avoid two losses in a row. It&#8217;s not the way to set the tone for an extensive road trip if you lose the first game. <strong><a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/talboma01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-boltsbythebay.com" target="_blank">Maxime Talbot</a></strong> was being annoying as ever, and to Vinny&#8217;s credit, I wanted to smack the man myself. Vinny and Maxime had a fight that was over quickly, as Vinny laid him out and got a couple of hits in on him after he was down.<br />
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<p>I respect Vinny for going out there and trying to get retribution for B.J.&#8217;s incident. However, Talbot was not the one who hit him, and if he was, two wrong&#8217;s don&#8217;t make a right. He could have won the fight cleanly if he hadn&#8217;t gone after him while he was down. You just don&#8217;t do that. What Rinaldo did was classless. So win the fight, hold your head up high, knowing that you&#8217;re the better man. As the team captain, he sets the example for the team and his actions speak for the organization. What his actions said in this fight was that he was just as low as Rinaldo. He wasn&#8217;t the better man that night. He didn&#8217;t even the score, he brought the image of the Lightning as a team as low as the Flyers. He sank down to their level, bringing the Bolt Blue with him. How can we say that the Flyers are dirty players, and that Rinaldo was in the wrong, when Lecavalier did the same thing? A team is judged by it&#8217;s leader. I&#8217;ve gone on and on before about the class of the organization. This was a classless move on the part of their leader.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t the first time that Vinny&#8217;s gotten in a couple of cheap shots:</p>
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<p>Evgani Malkin was standing up, so technically this was ok. However Malkin&#8217;s hands were bound and he couldn&#8217;t punch Lecavalier. This was a heated game. The Pittsburgh Penguins were whipping the Lightning at home at a time when the Lightning were not winning often last season. Malkin had a hattrick in that game. I can&#8217;t remember if this fight was after his hattrick or before the third goal was scored. Vinny was provoked when Malkin ducked to avoid a hit. Again, something that you don&#8217;t do according to &#8216;the code&#8217;. It can cause serious injury to the one doing the hitting. Man up. Put your big girl pants on and take the hit. It&#8217;s hockey. I&#8217;d hardly call Vinny a hot-head like I would Crombeen, but it appears that sometimes he just doesn&#8217;t think before he acts.</p>
<p>Watch your actions, Vinny. You carry a team on your shoulders. Or you&#8217;re supposed to, anyway. Crombeen, learn to control your temper. Both of you, install a brain-to-fist-filter. Get yourselves together. Your team needs you, especially now when this road trip is not starting out good.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This meeting between rivals the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Philadelphia Flyers was much more animated than the first one of the season. During the pregame, many hockey pundits described this match up as a playoff game. That quality was definitely justified. The game was tight checking, physical, and downright dirty at times. This game featured everything [...]</p><p><a href="http://boltsbythebay.com/2013/02/06/flyers-edge-lightning/">Philadelphia Flyers Edge Tampa Bay Lightning</a> - <a href="http://boltsbythebay.com">Bolts by the Bay</a> - <a href="http://boltsbythebay.com">Bolts by the Bay - A Tampa Bay Lightning Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_4770" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Conacher-Rinaldo-Vinny.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4770" title="Conacher Rinaldo Vinny" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Conacher-Rinaldo-Vinny-300x214.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="214" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">PHILADELPHIA, PA &#8211; FEBRUARY 05: Cory Conacher #89 of the Tampa Bay Lightning comes to the aid of teammate Vincent LeCavalier #4 by checking Zac Rinaldo #36 of the Philadelphia Flyers on February 5, 2013 at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Len Redkoles/NHLI via Getty Images)</p></div>
<p>This meeting between rivals the <a title="Tampa Bay Lightning" href="http://www.tampabaylightning.com" target="_blank">Tampa Bay Lightning</a> and the <a title="Philadelphia Flyers" href="http://broadstreetbuzz.com/" target="_blank">Philadelphia Flyers</a> was much more animated than the first one of the season. During the pregame, many hockey pundits described this match up as a playoff game. That quality was definitely justified. The game was tight checking, physical, and downright dirty at times. This game featured everything a hockey fan could ask for.</p>
<p>The intensity was felt right from the opening faceoff. The Flyers were able to gain some momentum in the offensive zone but were repeatedly denied by great shot blocking and a fascinating performance from <a title="Anders Lindback" href="http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474765" target="_blank">Anders Lindback</a>. The Lightning survived the early flurry and responded with their own. As the physical play escalated, tempers rose with it. Flyer&#8217;s center <a title="Zac Rinaldo" href="http://flyers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474736" target="_blank">Zac Rinaldo</a> and Lightning forward <a title="B.J. Crombeen" href="http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470647" target="_blank">B.J. Crombeen</a> dropped the gloves. Rinaldo had already won the fight after landing a big punch on Crombeen, but he continued to throw punches, landing two before Crombeen was finally flat on his back. This article will not debate whether or not Rinaldo crossed the line, that can be left for the comments section. Simply stated though, Rinaldo landed punches after Crombeen was down and defenseless, which seemed to upset fans on Twitter and the players themselves. However, not much else was actually said or shown after that fight. The period ended with no goals and three minors, none of which were malicious.</p>
<p>The second period started with a Lightning power play. The Lightning did not score on the power play. Moments later, <a title="Steven Stamkos" href="http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474564" target="_blank">Steven Stamkos</a> was momentarily left wide open in the slot amongst a maze of players. The puck ended up on his stick and he fired it off the crossbar. We all know how hockey works, so many of us were not surprised when the Flyers were able to come back and score on the very next chance. However, most fans were surprised to see <a title="Tom Sestito" href="http://flyers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473542" target="_blank">Tom Sestito</a> slipping the puck past Lindback for the goal. This was his first goal since December 23, 2010, coming 4:25 into the second period. The remaining 15 minutes of the period was filled with checking and defense. There were no penalties handed out, and anxiety was building on the Lightning team as scoring chances were missed or stopped by a hot <a title="Ilya Bryzgolov" href="http://flyers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8468524" target="_blank">Ilya Bryzgolov</a>. The middle frame ended with the Flyers hanging on to a 1-0 lead.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Vinny-Talbot-fight.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4771" title="Vinny Talbot fight" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Vinny-Talbot-fight-300x216.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="216" /></a>The Lightning made a great push as the third period began. We have seen the Lightning put together some great third periods in each of the 8 games the team has played so far, so this was no surprise. However, it seemed as though the Flyers could do no wrong defensively. Whenever the defense broke down, Bryzgolov was there to sweep up the mess. Finally, the Lightning were able to tie the game at 1. As the puck became stuck down low amongst five players against the boards, forward <a title="Benoit Pouliot" href="http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471678" target="_blank">Benoit Pouliot</a> was left all alone in front of Bryzgolov and beat him high on the stick side for the goal. The tie was short lived however, as Sestito struck yet again about 1:40 after Pouliot&#8217;s tally. Sestito finished off a 3 on 2 rush with virtually the same move he used to scored his first goal. Just five seconds after the puck was dropped to resume play, <a title="Maxime Talbot" href="http://flyers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470171" target="_blank">Maxime Talbot</a> and <a title="Vincent Lecavalier" href="http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8467329" target="_blank">Vincent Lecavalier</a> had some words for each other. The two bumped chests and then dropped the gloves. Most say this one was a draw between the two players, with a victory to Lecavalier only through his cheap shot at the end of the fight. Regardless of the actual terms of the fight (again, I will only discuss in comments if approached) most Lightning fans were once again made at least a little nervous to watch Lecavalier throw his hands, which are usually used for scoring, at another player&#8217;s face. As valiant as it may have been, Lecavalier&#8217;s offensive skill would have been much more useful than his fight as the game winded down. The Lightning would go on to lose the game by a score of 2-1 in the most intense game of the season thus far.</p>
<p>Want to speak on the fights? Use the comments or tweet me @<a title="Gabriel0430" href="http://www.twitter.com/gabriel0430" target="_blank">Gabriel0430</a>.</p>
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<div id="attachment_4772" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Crombeen-Rinaldo-Fight.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4772" title="Crombeen Rinaldo Fight" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/23/files/2013/02/Crombeen-Rinaldo-Fight-300x221.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="221" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">PHILADELPHIA, PA &#8211; FEBRUARY 05: Zac Rinaldo #36 of the Philadelphia Flyers and B.J. Crombeen #19 of the Tampa Bay Lightning fight in the first period on February 5, 2013 at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)</p></div>
<p><a title="Crombeen vs. Rinaldo" href="http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/115658" target="_blank">Crombeen vs. Rinaldo</a></p>
<p><a title="Lecavalier vs. Talbot" href="http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/115661" target="_blank">Lecavalier vs. Talbot</a></p>
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<p><em>Note: Crombeen was taken out of the game for precautionary reasons.</em></p>
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